Hey @pgliljedahl, we talked about #vnps today, and some people had questions about retention. There was a feeling that students tends to retain more when they write things permanently (worksheet, notebook). Is there any research on this?— Bob Janes (@MrJanesMath) November 27, 2018
This question, of course, is an important conception to address. More than just this question, though, it reminds me of many related questions that I have heard (and given suggestions to) many times before. But there is so much nuance to unpack that I only briefly considered a twitter thread - before thinking that I should probably just put it in a blog instead. I probably won't end up talking about all that I've thought about notes and the thinking classroom, but hey, it's a good start.
Here are some thoughts:
Coherence
I truly do not believe that it is helpful to only take #VNPS in isolation. Not only do we risk oversimplifying the #thinkingclassroom and reducing it to a shiny 'fad' with extra pizzazz (see here where I argue the importance of going beyond labeling strategies), we also lose out on the complexities that we can learn from as teachers. Worst of all, we lose out on coherence with the rest of our practice. Of course, we build coherence in our own unique ways, as demonstrated in moments that @JudytaLarsen captured here in Ottawa last year. This is also part of my focus in my Ignite last year.
Instead of looking at #VNPS in isolation, it's helpful to take a look at the #thinkingclassroom framework
In a way, it nullifies the rejection of #VNPS (even though I prefer to relate to #thinkingclassroom instead of just one element) on the grounds that kids need notes. By considering the framework, it also shifts the conversation from "this won't work because kids need to write" to "how do we incorporate meaningful note-taking in our practice."
And, of course, a teacher can only work toward coherence in their teaching practice by thinking deeply about what they do, how they do, when they do, while constantly considering what they learn from their students moment-to-moment, day-to-day.
Permanence
As @sig225 attempt to illustrate:
A couple of things : 1) They take a picture AND they HAVE TO put it in their #OneNote in chronological order with the rest of their content. If they just take a picture & keep it on their phone, it's not in context of the course & gets lost. They can then annotate it as well.— Cal Armstrong (@sig225) November 27, 2018
If we're talking about permanence, then technically a picture can be considered as 'permanent.' But permanence is not the focus. Cal continued to share this:
#vnps & recall— Cal Armstrong (@sig225) November 27, 2018
2) Their work on the board is often pure problem-solving (messy) - they are tasked to re-create it in their #OneNote in publish-able format (what we call Level 5 in Communication in #onted parlance). This lets them structure, sequence & annotate their work.
What he is saying here - which was a bit sidetracked by the technology question after this - is extremely important.
It's not whether students write notes in the class. It's not whether they take picture of their work on the boards.
It is about whether they have created personal meanings through the act of note-making, in a way that may consolidate, structure, and sequence their thinking, and perhaps also prompt further wonderings (e.g. I often also ask students to write down questions in their "notes")
Studenting
Sure, if students are writing things down permanently - provided that they don't lose their notes or burn them when they get home - you can consider these physical forms 'retained.' But if we are talking about knowledge retention, then this is a completely different ball game.
In a traditional classroom, teacher talks, writes, dances around in a monkey suit, and the student writes. But these ways of 'studenting' (sample work from Liljedahl & Allan (2013) comes to mind, Allan also has more written on the topic) does not guarantee learning or retention.
Notes are only meaningful if the students have made them meaningful.
The same can actually be said about pictures, too, in a #thinkingclassroom. After a while of working in the #thinkingclassroom environment, it is possible for students to want to 'game the system' by appearing like they are working by taking pictures. It is not enough to simply take pictures. It gives a false sense of knowledge that can be held in our hands. It is about what the teacher does with these pictures. Is it a gallery walk? Is it an activity based off of annotating their work? What are the prompts? what directions do students take? What hints and prompts emerge?
So it's not about #VNPS or note-taking, as if the two are at odds with each other. It's also not about 'let's just do both.' It's about building meaning into what students do.

