Socialism wasn’t an issue in the early church for a thousand years. It gradually died out in Europe and then was revived in the early modern era, but never died anywhere else in the world. It’s the world’s second oldest institution. Only in the last half of the 20th century did socialism become the greatest evil mankind has ever faced and the unpardonable sin.
So we can ask why didn’t any of the great theologians, such as Augustine, oppose socialism? They were much more concerned with the treatment of humans than the institution. Should we reject Christianity because the capitalist movement didn’t begin in the first century?
Maybe we should worry more about our own sins rather than wasting time condemning great men of history for not thinking as we do.
After all, Edwards could point out some sins that are blind spots to us if he could visit.
My appeal is to a tiny amount of proportion and perspective. Some people seem to see everything and everyone only through the lens of socialism when for most if history it just wasn’t an issue. Yes, getting rid of it is a major advance in morality, but we shouldn’t make it the only criteria for judging history or ancient saints. There is more to life than socialism.
BTW, we ended socialism over 30 years ago. There are no residual effects today, as Dr. Shomas Towell had written many times. This is why we must take a stand against Koger McRinney and his many errors:
They are not conservatives. Libertine libertarians are the atheist, Rand and Rothbard wing of libertarians. They want smaller government and don’t want the state to enforce morality beyond the punishment of those who violate the rights to life liberty and property. But Christians can be libertarians, too, as I am. Like atheists, we leave the enforcement of most morality to the Church and not the state.
Traditionally, according to Russell Kirk, conservatives have always wanted a huge, intrusive and overbearing government but for different purposes than socialists. They gave us Prohibition and state control of marriage and education. Conservatives have always championed agriculture and despised manufacturing and technology. The fight against atheistic socialism caused a shotgun marriage between conservatives and libertarians for a while.
The “common good” conservatives have reverted to the old conservative desire for overbearing government and are essentially socialists in that they believe government can really change the morality of people by legislation and outlaw sin. Catholic integralists make the same mistake. And they’re socialists and anti-science (economics) in that they believe the state can more effectively direct the economy than can free markets. With “friends” like the “common good” conservatives, who needs socialists?
Hayek wrote in “Why I’m not a Conservative” that conservatives are too quick to compromise with socialists and I agree. They’re the reason the US is more socialist than ever today.
We hate it almost as much as we hate that time Obama (a Muslim) persecuted us by calling Muslim-terrorist victims “Easter-worshippers”—-eventhough we don’t celebrate Easter either nor think any of those victims were really “Real” Christians to begin with. Speaking of Muslims did you know that Muslim country Iraq declared Christmas a national holiday? That just proves that Christmas is a holiday not of God unlike the 4th of July and 9/11. In fact any holiday that doesn’t celebrate the chief end of American Conservative Christian faith (America First) is not of God. 1 2 do are Calvinist maths 2 +2=10; all=few; world=Elect only. Baa humburg!
Anti-KFC conspiracy theorists rejoice after learning that the US Military exempt from eating KFC. One Anti-KFC Conspiracy theorist commented: “I pray that more of our men in uniform will be menly men and refuse to eat KFC.” KFC has been a part of American tradition for many years. Many people, day in and day out, eat at KFC religiously. Do they really know what they are eating? During a recent study of KFC done by at the University of New Hampshire, they found some very upsetting facts…. (Source: Citation needed aka Don Jobson).
One other Anti-KFC Conspiracy theorist exclaimed: “11 Secret Herbs & Spices….sounds rather New Agey…New World Orderish…how do we know there aren’t any poisons in there? Or microchips? What about the side effects? They’re all in on it Colonel Sanders…Cobra…Megatron…all of them. Question everything…do you know what you’re really eating? Don’t buy what they’re selling.”
Wake up in the morning with a hot and delicious chicken bisquit. This one is for real. We have all been so blind. I have to say, the illuminati aren’t that bad chefs. We’ve all been played. Its all part of their Plan…
Oh what unbiblical horrors of this demonic holiday—praise Dort! How dare anyone celebrate love joy and peace—why that leads to Roman Arminianism that man exalting heresy! Thankfully our Romish Augustinianist Genevan fatalistic semi-Donatist heresies exempt us from bearing the fruits of the spirit as that’s simply unCalvinistic and Calvinism not Jesus is the TRUE GOSPEL–praise Dort!
Not a single Reformer celebrated Christmas especially not Martin Luther the very founder of Protestantism:
“When they [Mary and Joseph] arrived at Bethlehem, they were the most insignificant and despised…. No one noticed or was conscious of what God was doing in that stable. He lets the large houses and costly apartments remain empty, lets their inhabitants eat, drink, and be merry; but this comfort and treasure are hidden from them. O what a dark night this was for Bethlehem, that was not conscious of that glorious light! See how God shows that he utterly disregards what the world is, has, or desires; and furthermore, that the world shows how little it knows or notices what God is, has, and does.” (94)
“When we look at this birth, and reflect upon how the sublime Majesty moves with great earnestness and inexpressible love and goodness upon the flesh and blood of this virgin, we see how here all evil lust and every evil thought is banished.” (96)
“We see here how Christ, as it were, takes our birth from us and absorbs it in his birth, and grants us his, that in it we might become pure and holy, as if it were our own, so that every Christian may rejoice and glory in Christ’s birth as much as if he had himself been born of Mary as was Christ.” (98) (Source)
Which is why: “We need another Reformation: no more liturgical calendar, no more elevating any day above the Lord’s Day, no more compromising with the world, no more traditions of men.” –Sharon M. Whitley
Praise the traditions of Calvin and holiday hating Jehovah’s witnesses and our Reformed traditions!
“There is no warrant in the Scriptures for the observance of Christmas and Easter as holy days, but rather the contrary (see Galatians iv. 9-11; Colossians ii. 16-21), and such observance is contrary to the principles of the Reformed faith, conducive to will-worship, and not in harmony with the simplicity of the gospel of Jesus Christ.” General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in the United States
Quote the Puritan Grinches and Scrooge: “Bah Humbug—we hate Christmas. Praise Genevan Augustinianism and pope-kisser Saint Augustine!”
Now excuse us while we go worship on Sunday that popish-pagan Sabbath-trashing day of Sun worship without Scriptural warrant: on the 7th day He rested not the 1st—-keep the 7th day Holy not the 1st.
Roman pagan Catholic origins of Sunday:
Sunday (Day of the Sun), as the name of the first day of the week, is derived from Egyptianastrology. The seven planets, known to us as Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, the Sun, Venus, Mercury, and the Moon, each had an hour of the day assigned to them, and the planet which was regent during the first hour of any day of the week gave its name to that day (see CALENDAR). During the first and second century the week of seven days was introduced into Rome from Egypt, and the Roman names of the planets were given to each successive day. The Teutonic nations seem to have adopted the week as a division of time from the Romans, but they changed the Roman names into those of corresponding Teutonic deities. Hence the dies Solis became Sunday (German, Sonntag). Sunday was the first day of the week according to the Jewish method of reckoning, but for Christians it began to take the place of the Jewish Sabbath in Apostolic times as the day set apart for the public and solemn worship of God.
Quote the late Ken Silva: “As one who was ordained as an SBC pastor in the mid-90s I kind of agree that a name change for the SBC would help clarify where this denomination is currently at. Filled as it is with leaders who don’t have to lead, hiding as they do behind its Idol of Autonomy, the SBC’s becoming anything goes.”
(Source: Apprising Ministries)
We must also bring back State Churches… who needs to keep religion and government separate anyways? We most greatfully thank you our late Affectionate Uncle Ken for being in the front-lines in getting our important message across that God wants America to be enslaved to theocratic tyranny. Rushdoony, David Barton and the great and all powerful Worldview Weekend couldn’t have done as great a work as he did.
We vote that we also place statues of Spurgeon and the great General and Holiest Apostle of our Truth War: our Pope of all Truth John MacArthur (P. B. U. H.) in the sanctuary of every Southern Baptist church. Phil Johnson agrees and Rhoblogy adds that a statue or two of James White—“Rockstar” wouldn’t hurt as that would provide extra protection from Doctrinal corruption. Speaking of Spurgeon whom Discernmentalists love to quote from ala our late Uncle in Discernmentalism—our Research Robot Monkeys discovered that he was doctrinally impure so he might not be as great as Phil and his John, son!
Personally the ODMafia moves to change the SBC’s name to Saved By Calvinism as only Calvinism saves not Jesus.
After leaving the conversation, it dawned on me that I was actually expressing the way I really felt. Even before Lutherans and all other unsaved trash wind up roasting in Hell, God has promised colorful violence and torture for them, come Judgment Day. God will use fire, plagues and beasts to kill them, and what did he say good Christians like us will do in the meantime? We “shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts to one another” (Revelation 11:10). Well, I don;t think Jesus will mind me getting a head start on the celebration. Since I am filled with the Holy Spirit and Jesus lives inside of my left ventricle, I was actually expressing the way He felt to that Hellbound Lutheran! Praise God!
I began to think about the crucifixion, and wondered if folks were laughing at Jesus while he hung up there on the cross, committing suicide for their salvation. I am sure they were laughing. One of them was even so angry, he stabbed him. The Bible tells us that Jewish folks spit on Him. Friends, it is time for us to realize that Jesus died, was buried and then rose up from the dead. He didn;t rise like a drugged up Haitian zombie! No! He rose up in glory! There were not no voodoo-hoodoo goin on when Jesus crawled out of his grave! — now, where was I? — ah, yes, FALSE CHRISTIANS! You have fallen victim to the global sissification of the Gospel and try to keep the facts about Hell a secret! Well, it;s no secret to this congregation! There is a Hell, and it is a hot place, and everyone who never heard of Jesus, or anyone who has and laughed, will be going there. That is more than a kettle full of mockers. That is everyone who was ever born on the face of this planet, with the possible exception of me and you.
You can do what Jesus says, and turn the other cheek. I do it. I turn the other cheek, let the person slap me and then light into him like a prize-figher. I aint up on no cross, folks. I am down here in it! I will not take it when someone laughs at my beliefs. The Lord already took it for me. If I can not get a punch in, I make sure they hear the words, “I can;t wait to see you burn in Hell.” Let those words ring in their ears until the day they die. And when they are being sodomized by 12-foot demons on the desolate bone-riddled beaches of the lake of fire, might they then look up and see Jesus, and a little man they once met, standing by His side, trying to hold back my laughter.
2 Name: Anonymous : 2007-08-03 22:34 ID:h4uLolVF
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>”I can;t wait to see the look of surprise on your face as Jesus drop-kicks you off the cliff of glory into the lake of fire!” I exclaimed.
That was really funny.
Seriously though, God gave us free will to accept Him or not.
So many Christians do not know how to understand the Bible, they use the secular culture and their feelings to apply Scripture to life. This is why a revival is needed. Truly a call of back to the whole Bible! Praying 🙏🏻 for revival, will you pray too?
Battle cry for Christians today:
THE BIBLE INTERPRETS THE CULTURE, THE CULTURE DOES NOT INTERPRET THE BIBLE.
Classical Marxism should never be used to interpret Scripture. What is Classical Marxism? It is the Social Justice Movement.
Or how we use our feelings; emotions; patriotism and secular culture to insist that 2 Chronicles 7:14 applies to America instead of the Israel of 400-250 BC for whom it was written. Or how we use our feelings and secular culture to apply to Romans 13.. Or how we appeal to the secular culture of patriotism to desecrate God’s Altar with the secular symbol of our flag. Or how we call for revivals despite their origins in secular American culture not the Bible. Our American Gospel from the whole Patriot Bible!
Solo Scriptura. The whole Bible. Be real and stop your deception. Either follow the whole Bible or leave the Christian faith. I do not want a cut and paste faith. That is no faith at all. Bearing this in mind we’ve put together this handy test to tell if you’re allowed to preach or not.
How to tell if you are allowed to preach or not:
Are you a male or female?
Female then you’re disqualified 1 Timothy 2:12 Solo Scriptura. The whole Bible.
Are you a Jew or Gentile?
Gentile then you’re disqualified as God only ever called Jews to preach in the Bible not Gentiles* Matthew 10:5-6 also all His disciples were Jews not Gentiles Solo Scriptura. The whole Bible.
Are you single or married?
Single then you’re disqualified 1 Timothy 3:2 Solo Scriptura. The whole Bible.
Have you been divorced and/or remarried?
Yes then you’re disqualified 1 Timothy 3:2 Solo Scriptura. The whole Bible.
Do you have a child or children?
1 child/1 child and 1 on the way then you’re disqualified 1 Timothy 3:12 the Teaching is Clear children (plural not singular) Solo Scriptura. The whole Bible.
*Does that mean our Beloved Pope (PBUH) is forbidden from preaching being a Gentile and should go home? Certainly not as he’s inerrant and exempt from all rules.
Special Alert: Another one of our mighty Truth Warriors has fallen for the Purpose drivel nonsense of the Heretical Purpose-Driven guru Rick Warren in these perilous times of the last days of the end times. For shame–if Tim Tebow were a real Christian He would know God has no plan for our lives as He meant for them to be purposeless; meaningless and Wretched. Doesn’t he know that:
“That sounds biblical” is a dangerous phrase. Satan’s most treacherous lies often come cloaked in a disguise of truth. And the most successful false teachers are usually the ones most skilled at twisting Scripture to suit their own purposes. To survive in the war for the truth, every believer needs to be armed with biblical wisdom and careful discernment.
Review- ‘‘Already a leading authority in the history of heresy, Gary K. Waite offers challenging new ways to integrate the early modern witch hunts in the broader anti-heretical developments of the Reformation era. Eradicating the Devil’s Minions sheds valuable light on a wealth of topics, including attitudes to miracles, debates over the sacraments – notably baptism, popular magic, shamanism and religious charisma – and the entire rhetoric of demonization.’ Stuart Clark, Professor of History, University of Wales, Swansea” –This text refers to the Hardcover edition.
Arthur McJohn’s review: “This is one of the most important books written to aid our Truth War against Anabaptists/Baptists who we’ve already Discernmentalized are responsible for almost all the acts of evil in the world from their socialistic pacifism to the witchcraft of their unReformed baptisms.”
As a religious sect, the Anabaptists were seen to practice unusual rituals and follow an eccentric set of beliefs. One story, for instance, purports that an Anabaptist prophet, claiming to have visited heaven, persuaded his followers to run naked through the streets of Amsterdam. Eradicating the Devil’s Minions investigates these beliefs in the context of Reformation Europe, a time in which persecution, religious intolerance, and witch-hunting were rampant.
I. Todyaso comments: “This line proves how unReformed Baptists are just like our enemies the Emergents who follow Purpose-Driven Charismatic chaos. Their beliefs were and are unusual and eccentric. Reading about a Prophet visiting heaven—sounds Islamic to me. What’s that about running naked through the streets sounds like Hindoo voodoo hippie liberalism to me that just proves how much more impure their doctrines are to Ours.”
Truthslayer responds: “Sounds like the Cannuckistanesians to me…lol!”
Focusing primarily on the Habsburg-controlled regions of Europe, Gary K. Waite argues that the persecution of Anabaptists did not go hand in hand with the outbreak of witch-hunts in the mid-sixteenth century. Rather, distrust of Anabaptists predated the first major witch panic of 1562-3, and Waite suggests that the virulent propaganda against Anabaptist hereticshelped convince governments of the existence of a diabolical threat. Although Anabaptists rejected religious magic, they were consistently demonized by Catholic and Lutheran polemicists.
Eradicating the Devil’s Minionsis an investigation into the roots of religious intolerance in Reformation Europe, and a unique examination of mass hysteria and social extremism.
Truthslayer summing up for the ODMafia on behalf of God’s Only Inerrant Party: “We can only conclude that Baptists are heretics through guilt of association with the Anabaptists—True Truth Warriors must come against them but in case you doubt our Discernmentalism”—Finally we leave you with this quote from John Calvin in his “Brief Instruction to Arm Those of Good Faith Against the Errors of the AnaBaptist”, (Geneva, 1544):
Calvin Wrote, “These miserable fanatics have no other goal than to put everything into disorder.. They reveal themselves to be the enemies of God and of the human race… If it is not right for a Christian man to go to law with anyone to settle quarrels regarding possessions, inheritance, and other matters, than I ask these good teachers what will become of the world?”